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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:46 pm 
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goodguytoo wrote:
Quick ?.
Using Toneport with Reaper...
When playing back a previously laid down rhythm track while recording a solo... The previous track is only played in my left earphone...The new as recorded solo is in both. Is it supposed to be that way? Can I have it play back in both eyes... Ear phones are connected to the earphone jack of the device.


You are "Monitoring" (listening back) to the previously recorded track through the Toneport correct?

To make sure, go to preferences... CTRL+P
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Click the dropdown for the "Enable outputs" (first, last) and see whether the both outputs (should be "1,2" or "L,R") are happening.

Might want to see which inputs are enabled while you are on that screen too.

Also... You probably have this figured out but in case you dont...

When you use the toneport / gearbox to record with reaper, when you are recording should leave the "record monitor" button off:
(in reaper)

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This is because while you are using gearbox, you are actually listening to gearbox, not reaper (not really important to understand)

With record monitoring off in Reaper, the sound from gearbox goes into reaper, but doesnt actually come back out!
If you had record monitoring enabled you would hear the signal twice... from gearbox, and then again as the sound comes out of reaper a few milliseconds later...


Heres a good trick:
When you record a guitar to reaper with gearbox, the simulated tone is what is recorded to the track... If you want to change the amp model later to fit the song better or whatever, you cant!
BUT... Gearbox has four outputs, and outputs 3+4 from the gearbox can be configured to send a dry, untreated signal to reaper!



All of these outputs can be seen in Reaper by Hitting CTRL+P, and going to the Audio>device section and clicking the dropdown for the "enable outputs"

Select 1 in the "first" dropdown
Select 4 in the "last" dropdown

Outputs 1+2 are the guitar through the simulator
Outputs 3+4 are shown in the stompbox / amp / FX signal chain in gearbox... By default they come AFTER the amp, and FX as shown here.

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If you click on the "send 3-4" thing in the signal chain, the bottom of the screen will look like the image above...

If you click the little switch all the way to the left that says "Pre / Post", the "send 3-4" thing in the signal chain will move all the way to the left in the gearbox signal chain, indicating that outputs 3+4 send signal BEFORE it goes through anything else in the signal chain.

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Which means, that in reaper, you can set up two tracks:
1.a track to record the Simulated amp sound from gearbox (gearbox outputs 1 and/or 2)
2. A separate track to record the dry untreated signal. (gearbox output 3 or 4)

Then, if you want to change the sound later you can use put another amp simulator on the track with the dry signal (inserting a plugin in reaper) and tweak the new sound to your liking.


cool 'eh?


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Thanks. That was it. Both were outputting to 1. Setting one to 2 fixed it.
I plan to experiment with outputting wet and dry signal. Thanks.

Have you tried both gearbox and pod farm? Any preference?


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goodguytoo wrote:
Thanks. That was it. Both were outputting to 1. Setting one to 2 fixed it.
I plan to experiment with outputting wet and dry signal. Thanks.

Have you tried both gearbox and pod farm? Any preference?


Oh great! Glad that it was the outputs!

Yeah, dont bother with recording the dry signal if you dont need it, its just another level of confusion really. I need to do it with clients, cause I have to be ready for them to change their mind about stuff...
I record the dry for my own stuff cause its fun to have the guitar coming out of two different amps, or to have a D.I. (dry) signal from a bass track to blend in with the bass amp.


Pod Farm...

I havent yet tried it... I LOOKS cool(er) but its one of those things... I have found myself to be a sucker for the "jolly candylike appearance" of some plugins... Gearbox is slightly uglier compared to ampfarm, keeping the focus on the ears!!! Easier to decide what 'actually' sounds good as opposed to looks good!
I am curious to see whether ampfarm sounds any different thatn gearbox, as I have heard reports either way. The dealbreaker for me will be whether PodFarm gives me all of the amps that I have with the gearbox "Gold Bundle" that a bought a couple of months ago... and of course, whether it uses more CPU!
One cool thing it says it does is gives you the option to use two amps at once... could be cool.


Best, Jake


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